Sunday, 6 March 2011

Labour Lies

Because I felt like tarnishing my soul and hurting my eyes, I had a look at the Guildford Labour Party's website recently. Here's what I found:


Let's have a look at that in detail shall we?
Labour in government has already done much to help older citizens. The next step is to link the annual state pension increases with the increase in earnings. But with huge Tory - LibDem cuts promised, will it have to wait for the next Labour government for the link to be restored?
 The next step is to link the annual state pension increases with the increase in earnings. Well, that's funny, because linking annual state pension increases with earnings was a Lib Dem manifesto promise. And, would you believe it, the earnings link with pensions is to be restored from April this year.

So, far from having to wait for the next Labour government the earnings link is coming back right now. And it's disgusting for Labour to harp on about it given that they had the option to do it for 13 years and CHOSE NOT TO.

As a result, I'm rather surprised by the lies and scaremongering that the Guildford Labour Party are up to. They know full well that the earnings link has been restored in the first year of this government and is a prime example of Liberal Democrat policy in action and changing Britain for the better. Either that, or they somehow managed to miss the budget completely.

Incidentally, they also make the statement that:
Tories & Lib Dems will repeal the hunting act 
We know from the published details of the Tory-LibDem coalition that they intend to introduce a "great repeal bill" in which the Hunting Act and several other important measures will be removed from the statute books.
(No sign here of the Liberal Democrats being a moderating influence over the Tories!)
Really. I might be wrong, but I wasn't aware that repealing the hunting ban was high on the governments list of priorities.

10 comments:

  1. That god bothering twat Steve Webb has linked *all* pensions to CPI, including the basic state pension from next year. If that is continued it will rob pensioners of billions over the next few decades.

    The previous Labour government abolished pensioner poverty with the pension credit, compared to that your "triple lock" is a piss take.

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  2. It's nice to see Labour supporters beginning their posts with personal insults and swearing; moving on to ignoring Labour's failure; then trumpeting a Labour initiative that was so detailed and intrusive many pensioners couldn't deal with the forms and so missed out; and finally back to swearing. What a nice bunch of guys and gals.

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  3. @Anonymous 1

    It's linked to earnings you idiot. The pension will increase each year by either CPI, earnings or 2.5%. Whichever is higher. That's far better than the insulting less than £1 increases which some pensioners have seen under 13 years of Labour. Thatcher removed the link to earnings and under 13 years of Labour you did nothing to remedy it. The Lib Dems in the coalition fixed it in 11 months.

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  4. Natasha Chapman6 March 2011 at 16:33

    Er, no Labour, the point of the repeal bill was to get rid of some of the unneccesary, authoritarian bullshit that you rolled out over the years. This kind of scaremongering is repulsive.

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  5. @Anon2

    "It's nice to see Labour supporters beginning their posts with personal insults and swearing"

    I'll call Webb what I like, that c*nt is fucking with my Mums pension.

    "then trumpeting a Labour initiative that was so detailed and intrusive many pensioners couldn't deal with the forms and so missed out"

    That was/is a problem with means testing but is far from the norm. The pensioners who don't bother to claim PC are generally those who will only receive a very small amount.

    @Potter

    "It's linked to earnings you idiot."

    You fucking moron, go read Merv King's 23 Feb speech about earnings and inflation. Earnings have been stagnant for the past 6 six years. Not forgetting RPI is on average higher than CPI, why do you think they're re-rating all pensions to CPI? Oh and you've gotta remember research has shown inflation for OAPs runs higher on average than RPI. So, basically your triple lock is sounds good but that is about all really.

    "That's far better than the insulting less than £1 increases which some pensioners have seen under 13 years of Labour"

    Yawn, in 97 Brown made a choice to introduce the minimum income guarantee, doubling the pension received by the poorest pensioners overnight. Because he did this the weekly increase in the basic state pension according to the formula the tories introduced was only 75p a week.

    "Thatcher removed the link to earnings and under 13 years of Labour you did nothing to remedy it."

    Re-linking pensions to earnings is no silver bullet. The pension credit did a lot more to help those poorest pensioners than re-linking to earnings would have done.

    @Natasha

    WTF?! Are you just copy & pasting the output of some anti-Labour quote generator or something?

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  6. Hey, Troll. Bridge. Get under it.

    Furthermore, unless you can debate with a civil tongue in your head then I'm going to start removing your posts.

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  7. @Potter

    "Hey, Troll. Bridge. Get under it."

    So anybody not accepting libdem-tory propaganda is a troll?

    "unless you can debate with a civil tongue in your head then I'm going to start removing your posts."

    Like all that oh so civil language you used in your post about Barnsley?

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  8. Natasha Chapman7 March 2011 at 02:07

    Actually Anonymous, Labour's attacks on civil liberties have had such a lasting impact on me that I don't need a quote generator as it'll be a long time before I forget. One thing I do owe that party partially though is my interest in politics as without them I doubt I would have got outraged enough to take notice.

    I can't speak for the owner of the blog, but I find your comments tiresome. All you do is make some random inane comment, followed by "lol". Now I love a good debate, so I don't mind opposing viewpoints but if you haven't got proper points to make or if you're not willing to treat other people with decency then why post?

    If you're angry at the government, then fair enough but what are you accomplishing by just spouting vitriol here? George Potter isn't a Lib Dem MP and hasn't voted in favour of the tuition fees rise or cuts or done anything really to warrant your behaviour.

    Just because the internet lets you hide your identity doesn't excue you abandoning your manners.

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  9. @Natasha

    "All you do is make some random inane commen"

    WHAT? I've posted on topic, fairly coherent comments that rebut the idea put that re-linking the state pension to earnings is the saviour of all over 65s the libdems are making it out to be. And the very real problems of linking pensions to CPI rather than RPI which is going to rob pensioners of billions over the next few decades.

    " followed by "lol"."

    I don't think I've lol'ed at all in this thread.

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  10. @Anonymous

    I can't be bothered to waste any more time on you. The Guildford Labour party says that a pensions link to earnings might have to wait until the next Labour government because of Tory/Lib Dem cuts. In reality pensions will now be linked to earnings.

    If average earnings rise less than RPI or 2.5% respectively then pensions will be raised by the higher out of the three. So unless you're saying that earnings will always be less than CPI or 2.5% then a link to earnings has most definitely been restored. It's very simple so I fail to see how you are unable to grasp it.

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